Question:
Will filling a sub box with fiberglass that you put inbetween walls make your sub sound better?
anonymous
2011-06-23 20:26:41 UTC
Will filling a sub box with fiberglass that you put inbetween walls make your sub sound better?
Four answers:
Jason Savage
2011-06-24 20:12:50 UTC
The question is often asked about why fiberglass filling is used, and does it reduce the box volume. Does it Reduce Internal Volume? Insulation filling will actually ADD to the effective volume "seen" by the driver. This seems counterintuitive since the insulation takes up space. This exists because of the thermodynamics within the cabinet. An unfilled cabinet is an adiabatic thermodynamic process. When the driver compresses the air, both the pressure and temperature are raised. If you fill the cabinet with fiberglass insulation, the fiberglass will absorb the heat created by the air compression. The thermal mass of the fiberglass keeps the temperature constant. You now have an isothermal system. The equilibrium state is the same with or without compression. Adding the thermal mass (i.e fiberglass insulation) lowers the resonance of the box, so a smaller box can be used to achieve the same resonance. I have never measured and verified this, but some technical papers will claim that you can increase the apparent size of the box by 15% with dacron and up to 18% for fiberglass.



What is the Insulation/Filling For?

The main reason for using insulation in a box is to reduce standing waves. Reflections of sound off walls and features of a box will mix with other waves inside the box. They will add or subtract depending on phase and time delay. A spherical enclosure would be the worst since surfaces are equidistant. A square box has a lot of standing waves. This family of standing waves adds to the sound of the box, especially in the midrange region. You don't want the box creating sounds of its own. The standing waves can also excite resonances of the panels, making additional noise. Some speaker manufacturers add bracing in the cabinet to break up the standing waves. You can completely fill the box with fiberglass if you like. Thiele documented that damping the vent (port) with filling will reduce efficiency, so keep it out of the port if your design has one. Foam products will accomplish suppression of the standing waves if they have acoustical absorption properties, but they will not have the thermal properties like the fiberglass. This is why foam is not recommended.



In summary, the speaker will "think" it is in a slightly bigger box with the insulation. I would recommend assembling your box without the filling first and listen to it. If you are building two boxes, assemble one with and one without. The box without filling will sound louder, but the extra volume is the added coloration caused by the standing waves. I would think one would want to hear the beautiful sound that your instrument created, not sympathetic vibrations, resonances, and nulls of a wooden box.
?
2011-06-23 20:48:52 UTC
If you have a SEALED enclosure, it is generally recommended that you stuff it with polyfill (pillow stuffing...you can buy it at most fabric/craft stores...even walmart I think). It is usually advised to staple fiberglass insulation to the walls of a PORTED enclosure. But before you do either, I would check your sub manual or contact the manufacturer and see what they advise.
N2Audio
2011-06-23 21:46:15 UTC
I wouldn't recommend fiberglass.



If you want to experiment I would follow Doug's advice and get some poly-fill.



What polyfill does is cause the box to perform as though it is considerably larger than it actually is. If you use 1-1.5 lb per cubic foot you can get an effective volume increase of around 30%.

I would only use it if you simply do not have room to build a large enough box.



If you have the space, no point in messing with it.
glen
2011-06-23 20:41:54 UTC
Nope. As long as you have 3/4" MDF you're getting most of the quality you can get out of it.


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